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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  What about them?

  Read all the posts on page 5 then read the posting guidelines below.

  This is my last post on this thread.
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  New Information On Blood?

  by EmptyInside in

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  2. beliefs

  i've overheard from a couple of elders,that they are going to be getting some new information on the blood issue.

  now,i understand in the witness world,this could all be much ado about nothing.

  but, does anyone know what this info could be?.

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  This is an interesting study on rumour-mill dynamics.

  Old school witnesses reject the change in blood doctrine that allows some fractions, particularly the use of hemoglobin, especially particularly the use of bovine hemoglobin. They wouldn't go near the stuff if they were bleeding buckets out of every body oriface. That is because the use of blood products of any description being against Jehovah's will has been irreversibly ingrained and the change in doctrine is perceived as no change at all. Nothing has really changed in their minds. How could there be a change? Truth doesn't change. Everyone knows that. It's our understanding that changes, that's all. When the GB says it is not disallowed to take transfusions of cow hemoglobin they're not really saying it's ok. They're saying, "well, we can't stop you from doing it if you decide to, but you're going to have to stand alone and face up to any consequences of your decision."

  Rubbish. The GB can't wash away the blood that's on their hands, no matter what they do.
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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Explain?

  posting guidelines?
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  What was the first single you ever bought, and what are your memories?

  by lifelong humanist in

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  some light relief!.

  even now, i can vividly recall buying my very first 45 rpm single in 1967.. i was only just 15 years old.

  i worked as a 'paper boy', delivering newspapers to people living nearby.

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  Paperback Writer, with Rain on the flip side. 1966. I was 14 and also a paperboy. It was, I believe, the first Beatles hit that wasn't a love song. I played it so much it ended up being one big scratch.
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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Is there a double standard?
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  On taking offense and taking responsibility

  by Lion Cask in

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  the darth plagueis soap opera is already winding down.

  the hapless plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the posting guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators.

  regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is jwn but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense.

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  I retire with the satisfaction of knowing I've reached at least one of those to whom I wanted to apologize and that my apology has been accepted.

  Good night.
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  On taking offense and taking responsibility

  by Lion Cask in

  1. jw
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  the darth plagueis soap opera is already winding down.

  the hapless plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the posting guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators.

  regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is jwn but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense.

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  this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is JWN

  It can be nothing else, VIII, because the board would not have endured as long as it has otherwise.

  Now, as to what you said about the bible and corn, well--EWWW.

  Yeah. Mea culpa.
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  On taking offense and taking responsibility

  by Lion Cask in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the darth plagueis soap opera is already winding down.

  the hapless plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the posting guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators.

  regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is jwn but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense.

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  Hey there, Gregor. No, I didn't write Plagueis' words. I am apologising only for my own. You are apparently not one of those who might take offense to the Bible being likened to excrement, so my post wasn't meant for you anyway.

  You've evidently missed the point of what I had to say, or you have been offended by it. Whatever. In future I will try to be more succinct (and clearer). Thank you for the coaching.
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  On taking offense and taking responsibility

  by Lion Cask in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the darth plagueis soap opera is already winding down.

  the hapless plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the posting guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators.

  regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is jwn but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense.

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  The Darth Plagueis soap opera is already winding down. The hapless Plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the Posting Guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators. Regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is JWN but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense. It is also about owning the consequences of what we have to say.

  If I was to list the most insufferable characteristics of the righteously religious, at the very top would be sacrimoneous indignation. In my experience a serious but respectful challenge to what a righteous individual believes, particularly if put forward with evidence, knowledge and conviction, has the potential to precipitate rage. Not putting a too delicate or politically correct spin on it, the Muslims have some of the most graphic examples within their ranks - say something even mildly critical or irreverant about the Prophet and you can expect not only rage but a fatwah on your life. Not quite as intolerant toward those who dare not believe what they believe are some within the WTS. There is nothing quite as transparent as the tremulous look of contempt on the face of a Watchtower elder seriously confronted with the truth about The Truth. The complexion of the thing changes, however, when words are disrespectful and taking offense is justified.

  In a currently active thread entitled: I need a show of hands: who believes the Bible and to what extent?, the following post was made:

  There are most definitely elements of truth in the Bible, otherwise it would not be credible at all, even to the gullible. But I might liken those elements of truth to the undigested kernels of corn one might see in feces - they're still edible, but I'm not too interested in picking them out before I flush it all down the toilet where it belongs.

  While the post may push the envelope of vulgarity, it does not apparently violate the Posting Guidelines, but it's a safe bet that there are those who would find the comment deeply offensive. Far more offensive, perhaps, than Plagueis' potty mouth - particularly to those gentle souls who regard the Bible and its contents with a deep, abiding love and reverance. But after two days, narry a comment, doubtless because it absolutely deserves none.

  I can say with complete certainty that the poster's intent was not to offend and that he later had sober second thoughts about his sense of decorum and the appropriateness of his words. I know this because the words are mine. They may express my perspectives unambiguously but they are also disrespectful, for which I may expect to be disrespected in kind. Ye reap what ye sow.

  To those who I offended, though none have yet spoken up, my apologies.
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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Lion Cask

  I have no hatred toward its adherents. I feel a deep abiding love toward a couple of them, in fact. On rare occasions I have encountered Witnesses I truly disliked, but I think the feeling might have been mutual. The Watchtower itself, by that I mean the Society and its doctrines, I loathe. How can one feel otherwise toward something that has taken the lives of innocents and diminished the lives of so many people over the past 150 years or so?